Hi Ina, Since our phone conversation I can now post below all the other photos from that night, though of very poor quality, they may just give clues for identification, and some are of other insects from the night and general stuff though having been much duplicated. Most of the stuff I have already previously identified I will have already moved the pictures from this folder. So this is stuff still in the pending for one reason or another....
Jim sorry about the quantity showing here, but its not really taking any room on the bird site it only the link word content as far as the club site and actual photos are on my hosting site, yet it will play havoc with your counters.
Yes, I agree with your ID, Ina and with Bryans ID of Purple Bar.
Here are my ideas for some of the others (last few digits of image number): Antler Moth (16) Smoky Wainscot (33,81,82,97,113) Probably Large Yellow Underwing but can't tell size (45,46,76,94) Iron Prominent (48,49,50,92,93) True Lover's Knot (55,61,62,64) Marbled or Tawny Marbled Minor (need to look at its bits to tell) (58,59,60,63,70,72,137,138) Common / Lesser Common Rustic (ditto) (65, 66) Dark Dagger / Grey Dagger (ditto) (98,99,100,105) Phoenix (101,102,103,104) Small Phoenix (110,111) Mother of Pearl (109,112,115,117) Some kind of Minor (137,138,139,140)
Really does bring the forum into it's own this stuff.
Thanks for uploading images. Mandy and me had our trap out the other night and we had our first Phoenix which was nice an the amount of yellow underwing was amazing, about 25-30.
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You work quickly Jim. It will take me ages to work through the images and check them with mine. Your ID's will certainly help, thanks. Some of my photos I have just had to 'bin' as they have a green cast, flash and Charlie's moth lamp don't get on!! Another lesson learned with this camera!!
If you have nothing better to do on a wet Sunday (obviously I haven't), have a look at these.
Hmm... difficult beasties these pugs. I'm sorry to say I generally ignore them as they are difficult to ID especially when there is no clue to size. Looking at the book I'm led towards Currant Pug or possibly Wormwood Pug, but the specimen looks fairly faded making it more difficult still.
Second photo is some kind of micro which I also tend to ignore, not having a book for them.
Third one is Dun-bar which is pretty variable but always has the bar across the fore wing and the dark spot within it.
Re the photos - you are probably best putting specimen in a tube and moving it away from the lamp, or put yourself between the lamp and the moth. I tend to take photos by natural light because I trap overnight to save losing my beauty sleep.
Thanks again Jim. That's made me feel better, you have come up with similar answers to me. Wasn't sure about the Dun-bar as the colour's very variable. I'd thought of taking a few home next time to photograph the following day. I will have to promise Bryan and Charlie that I will put them back where they came from though!!
Hi Ina, Jim & Ste, I am truly amazed by the great co-operation and superb feedback here and like Ina said Jim you where superquick with the identifications and it really does help and thanks, we can get on a little further with our list for that night. Actually the list has already been sent into the County Recorder by Charlie, though I am sure he will be able to update in the next week or two.
Its a great thing for me this mothing especially at the Top O'th Slate venue because its almost the same area from where I do the vismig watches and have also been doing a sort of amateur ecology report of the area over the years.
