Hi Jim, Picked the right weather day,the redwings and pheasant were a bonus,the gulls ,corvids and wood pigeons i dont normally count,so doing this makes you take notice,the sparrows and starlings were up in edenfield,they dont come in the valley ?,the flocks of long tailed tits seemed to be everywhere,i have been conservitive with my numbers ! still disappointed about the lack of treecreepers,think i might struggle for these numbers on bull hill next weekend.