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Hi Jim,
Really great to hear of Green Hairstreak territories.  I have not yet been up Grane to check out the 2 known territories there, but sure I saw a posting earlier by Ian and Kevin that they had them on the side of the scrubber (musbury heights - South back of Calf Hey Res).
I was wondering if you are opening up the postings to include Moths.  Me and Charlie Payne have been out doing a little moth trapping at Grane on a couple of occasions and its suprising the amount about even so early in the year.  The jewel in the crown was last Sat night when we had a Small Elephant Hawkmoth at the Calf Hey Car Park.  Let me know if you are doing moths and I will post as and when.

Bryan.

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Hi Bryan -
As requested, I've created a section for moths, below this one. Feel free to post any records you have. How is Charlie, by the way? Haven't seen him for years. Glad he is still interested in natural history. Perhaps you could post details of what sort of trap he uses etc? I do some trapping over in Bolton with a Robinson trap and the range of species is quite surprising. Does Charie send his data to the Lancashire Moth Records, by the way?

-- Edited by JimOrmerod at 16:16, 2007-05-12

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Thanks Jim, thats great and yes I will gladly post from our next Moth trapping experience.  Charlies OK and still keen, nowadays well into wildlife photography and more recently Moths.. I will pass on your regards when I see him, which should be in the next few days. 
I dont know what sort of trap you would call it, in fact I dont suppose it is a trap as such, more of a very big spotlight (the sort what comes in a black metal guarded frame which you could probably associate more with the Fire Brigade or Building Sites etc, its approx size of 18"x12", and this supports a great big bulb in its interior, the likes of bulb I have never seen before).  He sets this up with his portable generator and lays a large white bedding sheet to the front of the light and the Moths, Beetles etc land on the sheet and closeby the spotlight.  
Its all new to us and to be honest with you the data collecting is in its infancy, with just the odd species or two actually identified and logged although we have photos of stuff archived and not yet identified.  I am lucky to have Souths Volumes and as soon as I get a little more time, I will have another bash to identify.  Although these volumes maybe or have been in the past a authoritive works, sadly their preparation are from the good old days which tend to show specimens has they would be presented for museums etc with outspread wings.  When the specimens we are witnessing are far from spread out wings.  My standard, simple, general,  Collins - Complete British Wildlife, perhaps give better examples, although far from conclusive! but at least you get photo examples in these more modern references.  Eventually lets hope we can get around to sending some records to the Lancashire Moth Recording.

Hope to have some records for you shortly.
Bryan.

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As regards books for identifying moths, the best one I've found is Field Guide to the Moths of Great Britain and Ireland by Paul Waring and Martin Townsend illus by Richard Lewington. It shows them in the posture you see them in in nature. It's not cheap - £29.95 in paperback, probably cheaper from Amazon.

There is a concise version of it due out soon (all the pictures, less description) for about £12.

Both can be bought from British Wildlife: http://www.britishwildlife.co.uk/




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Hi Boys, just picked up the thread. Regarding books have you seen Moths of the British Isles by Bernard Skinner published 1984. Its a large format book with all the species "pinned out" so to speak and runs to 250 pages or so. Apparently the second edition is the one to have as all the mistakes had been rectified by then. There are some revues on Amazon if you are interested but be warned it runs pretty dear at £ 35:00.

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Hi Bob - did you have fun in Mallorca?

Yes, I got the Skinner book when I first tried mothing, but I found it quite hard to ID the ones I caught because they wouldn't oblige and stand there with wings out. The illustrations in Skinner are photos of pinned out specimens. It is pretty goor otherwise, though I find the Waring and Townsend much easier as Lewingtons illustrations show them in natural poses, much more like you see them in the wild.

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